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@ 2007-07-20 15:08:00
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Cardew




Cornelius Cardew.
These are graphical scores from his work Treatise.

"The score must govern the music. It must have authority, and not merely be an arbitrary jumping-off point for improvisation."
- Cornelius Cardew, Treatise Handbook,p.iv col 2 pp. 2

"In the case of Treatise a line or dot is certainly an immediate orientation as much as the thread in the fog. "
- Cornelius Cardew, Treatise Handbook,p. iv col 1 pp. 1

"Remember that space does not correspond literally to time."
- Cornelius Cardew, Treatise Handbook, p.iv col 1pp.3

"The notation is more important than the sound. Not the exactitude and success with which a notation notates a sound; but the musicalness of the notation in its notating."
- Cornelius Cardew, Treatise Handbook, p.vii col. 1 pp.3

"There is a great difference between: a) doing anything you like and at the same time reading the notations, and b) reading the notations and trying to translate them into action. Of course you can let the score work on previously given material, but you must have it work actively."
- Cornelius Cardew, Treatise Handbook,p.vii col. 1 pp.4




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[info]snej
2007-07-20 10:12 pm UTC (link)
Those are pretty! And they reminded me of this score that I ran across here a few days ago:

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[info]staticbullets
2007-07-20 10:35 pm UTC (link)
That is absolutely incredible and really the instructions are the best part. Especially the bit where you are supposed to moon-walk and then continue "swimming" motion.

Now I really want to track down the original score to treatise, and make some big enlargements.

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[info]thisisstar
2008-04-30 02:25 am UTC (link)
Found your post looking for good treatise scans.

It's available here if you want your own copy of the whole thing:

sheetmusicplus.com

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[info]snej
2007-07-21 04:52 pm UTC (link)
I meant to ask — I'm fairly illiterate musically, so I can't tell if those Cardew scores are playable, or serve as annotations to a separate traditional score, or are a type of Surrealist exercise ... ? Though from the quotes you give, it sounds mostly like the latter.

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[info]staticbullets
2007-07-21 05:02 pm UTC (link)
They aren't truly applicable as musical scores by themselves. Cardew was very influenced by John Cage's concept of indeterminancy in performance situations, so these scores were meant to more or less conceptualize a performance. The only vague caveat Cardew gave was a suggestion that the performers consider their interpretation before performing, so it wasn't really intended for improvisation per se.

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thanks much
(Anonymous)
2008-03-25 10:15 pm UTC (link)
nice work, brother

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thank you
(Anonymous)
2008-05-08 04:37 am UTC (link)
favorited this one, dude

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Thank you!
(Anonymous)
2008-05-16 03:07 am UTC (link)
Hi there, my name is Aoife and I'm in the process of writing my undergraduate thesis. It's all about notation and ambiguity. The quotes from Corenelius Cardew's handbook for Treatise will be a great help in my consideration of graphic scores methinks, here's a quote you might enjoy: "I am personally astounded that even today one does not play Kandinsky or Miro, even though it would be so simple and easy to do so."

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